
The counseling manual constantly refers to a case study entitled “Mary’s Husband Has Left Her” which tells the story of two selfish, insipid, and seemingly unintelligent individuals who are unfortunately linked together through marriage.
The case study mostly revolves around Mary being resentful at Tom for not helping out more around the house. He spends all of their money on himself and Mary is having a hard time paying bills/ buying food etc. She is a Christian; he is not. He comes off as, quite frankly, a bit of a loser. Mary resorts to nagging and complaining.
Most of the counseling focus is directed at Mary, her self-absorption, selfishness, and complaining attitude. She is counseled to submit to her husband in all things, to serve him breakfast every morning, and not neglect her responsibilities as a housewife just because she is angry and feeling overwhelmed and depressed. (Her husband gets angry when she does not get up and make him breakfast in the morning.)
The counseling manual points out Mary’s many uses of “unbiblical words and actions.” Viewing Mary through a biblical lens, we are supposed to write down what Mary’s words and actions indicate about her.
In the case study, Mary’s husband, Tom, ends up attending counseling sessions with her and remains mostly silent, a victim of his wife’s overbearing complaints and verbal accusations. We are meant to see him as someone who has had his spirit trampled by a wife who has usurped his authority, thrown his authority back in his face (at one point, she yells out, “You decide! You’re supposed to be the leader in this family!”), and neglected her own wifely responsibilities, namely housekeeping and sex.
The counselors hold Mary accountable to her household responsibilities by having her keep a list of priorities and scheduling her daily chores. She is to complete these chores regardless of how she feels. She is to be a servant to her husband.
Tom is confronted, too, for his misdeeds. The authors of this manual are vague about specifics, but he is confronted about his lack of consideration for his wife’s efforts. However, the focus is sharply on Mary, since she is the Christian on the case study. Tom eventually does come to Christ and, shockingly,toward the end of their counseling sessions, he admits he has a drinking problem that is eating up his family’s income.
I’m not going to get into the blatant sexism in this case study, or the way the book presents, at a very surface-level, the problems that result in a marriage as a result of a loudmouth, nagging, nit-picking wife. It is such a stereotypical scenario. We could all watch re-runs of the Jon and Kate and all their kids show if I we wanted to dissect a marriage torn apart my shallow, selfish behaviors.
As I read the counselor's responses to this couple's dilemma, I do find it incredibly odd that no one called out Tom on his alcoholism earlier in the counseling sessions. If they didn’t notice it, they are obviously not qualified to be family counselors. If they did, and chose not to confront him with it and make it one of the primary foci of the counseling sessions, well… that scares me.
Biblical counselors are staunch about the following aspects of a biblical marriage:
a) Divorce is not an option except in the case of infidelity. Abuse doesn’t even qualify. Oftentimes, physical abuse doesn’t qualify, let alone verbal, mental, and emotional. Spousal addictions don’t qualify, abandonment, which is listed as a reason for divorce, is greatly debated, and child abuse doesn’t even qualify. (Though most nouthetic counselors will advocate getting the authorities involved if someone is in danger, a separation period with the hopes of biblical reconciliation is always the desired outcome.)
b) Submission is key. Biblical submission and wifely submission are hammered into counselee’s brains again and again. According to this case study, all it takes for a marriage to be restored to God is if the wife starts cleaning up after her husband without complaining and makes dinner on time. Less harped upon is the fact that husbands should love their wives as Christ loved the church. Here’s a quote from the training manual:
“Your love for your spouse is not to be based on your emotions, circumstances, or your spouse’s responses. Instead, you are to love your spouse in obedience to the Lord. Remember that God does not command you to feel like loving. Instead, He directs you to think, speak, and act in a loving manner even when your spouse chooses to have only casual contact with you, acts like your enemy, is a believer or an unbeliever.”
For common, day-to-day marital problems, including dealing with a lazy husband or a nagging wife, this is a quote (based in Scripture) to fall back on.
However, if your counselee’s husband is pummeling her day after day, this probably isn’t the best quote to share with her.
The manual’s neglect of common problems that people seek counseling for is shocking. They don’t go into the specifics of:
Infidelity
Emotional abuse
Sexual abuse
Physical Abuse
Violent Tempers
Severe Addictions
Mood disorders
Rebellious children
Severe Depression
(I understand this manual is an overview, but the fact that it is so adamant in its authority undermines individual needs and problems.)
Is the bible so stringent that counselors feel they must resort to threatening (they call it confronting) scared wives to stick with their husbands because leaving is a sin not ever worth considering? Is it appropriate to sweep major problems, like alcoholism, under the rug, without conversing about the way this has spiritually, mentally, and even physically affected all of the members of a family? Are we to hold the marriage covenant higher than physical and financial safety?
Nouthetic counselors would answer a resounding yes.
I’m not so sure.
Emotional abuse
Sexual abuse
Physical Abuse
Violent Tempers
Severe Addictions
Mood disorders
Rebellious children
Severe Depression
(I understand this manual is an overview, but the fact that it is so adamant in its authority undermines individual needs and problems.)
Is the bible so stringent that counselors feel they must resort to threatening (they call it confronting) scared wives to stick with their husbands because leaving is a sin not ever worth considering? Is it appropriate to sweep major problems, like alcoholism, under the rug, without conversing about the way this has spiritually, mentally, and even physically affected all of the members of a family? Are we to hold the marriage covenant higher than physical and financial safety?
Nouthetic counselors would answer a resounding yes.
I’m not so sure.
8 comments:
I've read of nouthetic counselors literally telling raped women that they're in sin because they need to forgive their abusers. it's horrendous. it's also not in keeping with scripture, as Jesus never ordered the less powerful to forgive the more powerful, but the reverse.
Nouthetic counselors would never tell a raped woman that she must forgive her abuser. They view forgiveness as conditional ("If your brother repents then forgive him" Jesus said). In other words, you cannot forgive someone who has not repented (see Jay Adams book, From Forgiven to Forgiving). The comment is typical of someone who has read nothing about nouthetic counseling at all.
As for the post above, pretty poor work for a writer. Very nitpicky indeed. It was one case study used as an example. How about critiquing the actual principles they use including supporting reasoning and Scripture? That should prove to be a challenge since they draw directly and unequivocally from the Bible.
As a side note: The most effect modern day counseling (proven by hundreds of studies just google search) is cognitive-behavioral counseling which, interestingly enough, uses many of the same principles as nouthetic counseling.
Dear Anonymous,
Actually, John Weaver has had first-hand encounters with nouthetic counselors,and is extremely well-read about the subject. Your statement that a nouthetic counselor would "never" say that is incredible narrow-minded. As I admit that there are many NANC certified counselor who ascribe to modern medicine and who are genuinely kind and well-intentioned people, you should certainly admit that a handful say cruel and wrongful things.
I think Jay Adams' brand of counseling IS closest to cognitive-behavioral science, which, I suppose, is good for some things but does not address the root of many psychological issues. That is why cognitive science is generally integrated into other forms of psychology.
I'm not even sure how to respond to the fact that I was "nitpicky." I only referred to one case study because that was the only case study used in this particular book. I always thought "nitpickiness" was an attribute when writing a review.
I've read most all of Jay Adams' material. I would not have started this website if I hadn't.
The reason this instructor's guide fails is precisely because it draws every single point directly from the bible. Sometimes it is done well, sometimes verses are stretched to fit an agenda.
The problem lies in the authors' failure to admit that there are specific instances in a person's life that don't have a direct answer in the bible. That's not to say there aren't general, guiding principles... but the scope of the guide is incredibly limited, and there are too many blatantly false statements (see part 1) to take this book seriously.
THe BIble does provide everything we need to live a life of godliness - See 2 Peter 1:3. Do you really think a loving God would leave us without all we need to know how to live a life full of joy? Yes, in this world we have troubles, but what are the reasons for troubles? See Psalm 119 and Romans 8:28-29. And yes, God has also set up governmental authorities for those who break the law via rape or abuse - all of which Christian women should avail themselves of. Lastly, I would recommend a book I recently read titled "Counsel from the Cross" by Elyse Fitzpatrick to show the real issue in any counsel - the love of Christ in our hearts over and above any actions. WERE IT NOT FOR HIS GRACE!
Also would recommend a book I recently read titled "Counsel from the Cross" by Elyse Fitzpatrick showing a more fuller view of Biblical counsel.
Thank you for your comment.
The bible, however, does not provide everything we need to live a life of godliness and to say this is dangerous and WRONG. Without the indwelling of the holy spirit, the bible is just another book.
As for the verses you have quoted, be careful that you do not take them out of context. These are common verses that the biblical counseling movement takes out of context in order to refute any wisdom found outside of the bible.
You can have joy in Christ and still be medically predisposed to depression.
I will check out the book you have recommended.
My aunt goes to therapist because she didn't forget her son who died in accident last 2007; She didn't talk for a last 2 years... And counseling helped her a lot...
depression counseling
My goodness! Holly, I respectfully disagree with you. I am very familiar with both BCF and NANC. I was in an abusive marriage and biblical counseling helped me tremendously. Unfortunately, my husband played the Christian psychologist, who integrated psychology, very well - making himself the victim. We are now divorced. We started with biblical counseling - and after about a month my husband refused to go back because I was being taught as his wife how to hold him accountable for his sinful actions. Things that the Christian psychologist coddled him for - totally missing his manipulative behavior. You are very misguided to say God's word, the Bible, cannot help in situations of abuse, alcoholism, depression, etc. It helped me to see that as a wife I am to confront sinful behavior - whereas a integrationist counselor told me to find my fulfillment elsewhere. You are showing you have not read/studied the Bible. The Bible is obviously not "just a book" as it clearly teaches it is inspired by God (God-breathed) and that the Holy Spirit moved upon the writers to write what the wrote. I was so impressed with the biblical help that I received (and yes I had gone to other counselors first) that I decided I wanted to help others understand the God who is personal and intimate in the lives of his children so I went back to school in my middle 40's and am now a biblical counselor, NANC certified. My ex-husband is still a very angry/resentful person who attends such things as Tres Dias and Celebrate Recovery - and still sees the Christian psychologist....... and it has been 5 years. Very sad. I fully agree with anomynous and my suggestion would be that you look at the entire picture and not just one tiny aspect of it - because you are missing a lot. You are stereotyping a group (by the way there are very bad psychologists - one is in the news now from the Tampa area)based on your own prejudices and yet you haven't said anything about psychologists and how hurtful they have been/can be. You have made a sweeping judgment on something you really know nothing about and your article proves that. My suggestion to you would be: make the effort and sit in with a biblical counselor - NANC certified - and then make your comments. Obviously John Weaver is not that "well read" or has had real first hand accounts with nouthetic counselors - what he writes proves it. I've encountered raped victims and those struggling with alcohol/drugs - and seen real change through biblical counseling. I have also seen those who refuse to be obedient to God's word, and they are still struggling. The One who created us, knows us inside and out, gave us what we need to live life the fullest through Jesus Christ - His Word John 1:1. I'm not "anonymous" and I'm not Anonymous above, but I couldn't get anything else to work in order to be able to post this comment. Caryn
Caryn,
I've sat with three different nouthetic counselors.
My father-in-law, who I love, is a biblical counselor (more along the lines of Ed Welch rather than Jay Adams.) We love to respectfully debate.
It is so not a subject I know nothing about.
You have not addressed my major issue with mouthetic counseling,most importantly the reactionary nature of the movement against psychology, specifically medical issue like schizophrenia, depression, bipolar disorder, OCD, etc.
Of course the bible can help in situations of abuse, alcoholism, etc. I never once stated that it could not. Obviously, to Christians, the bible is not just another book. My point was that if a person has not accepted Christ, the bible is an interesting document, nothing more. In order to truly KNOW God, we need the indwelling of the holy spirit. Therefore, the bible is not sufficient for all things- we cannot get into heaven without God's mercy. A person can read the salvation message a thousand times in scripture but without the personal decision, the biblical rendering is meaningless to them.
You got yourself in such a huff that you misread and misinterpreted what I wrote. (Which is typical of reactionary people and is why nouthetic counselors often unknowingly misinterpret scripture.)
Of course there are bad psychologists. There are bad mothers, bad husbands, bad pastors, bad salesman, bad any type of person. I still recommend the integrationist approach to counseling. It just makes more sense.
My interest in Christian counseling comes from a series of misses and failures with different approaches to my depression, reading a lot of different material, and talking to people who have come out of different counseling experiences.
I was especially critical of the BCF manual because the NANC counselor at my former church was using it during a class she was teaching on biblical counseling. It was obviously a basis for her wrongful counsel to my friend who was living in an abusive relationship.
Any "stereotypes" you think I am labeling NANC counselors with come straight from BCF and Jay Adams materials.
I don't purport myself to be a bible scholar, but your assumptions about me are wrong.
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